Photograph 3: Wattle-and-DaubThis is a timber frame house in Wales, United Kingdom, with the wattle-and-daub exposed. Im hoping we can have more of a cathedral ceiling on the trailer, a beam separating the trailer and addition, and the cathedral ceiling on the addition side. #11. { 120 comments read them below }kathyWe are looking at a used a trailer that has some iron?/metal apparatus sticking out one end past the skirting area. The temptation will be to ship them anyhow. Modular Home 1992-1996 - 1248 sq. But IAlisonsorry to continue. It became the most common type of wood-frame construction from about 1890 until around the late 1930s and is found throughout the entire US. How come they look the way that they do? Living in New Mexico we also have very dry air. Now it is plugged againand my 50 snake would not unplug it. After running this model through REMDesign replacing all the R-15 walls with R-21 walls, the total energy savings are $41 per year. On June 15, 1976, HUD established construction and safety standards for mobile homes because they were becoming widely-used as permanent housing. I have a 1978 hillcrest mobile home. In advance, thanks so much for your advice!PaulYou might get by with that, but since I am NOT a structural engineer that is a guess. Where can I find the H U D code for 1998 code for the attachments? Framework - Lumber image by Jeffrey Zalesny from, Framework - Lumber image by Jeffrey Zalesny from Fotolia.com. I need to know what kind of air conditioner was used on this model?This one has a unit on the roof. MonaHi Paul,Thank you for the very informative site. Log construction in the New World broke into two distinct types: the American interlocking corner approach and the Canadian (and obviously more superior) horizontal construction with corner posts. Both were readily displaced by timber framing due the savings in materials much less timber is used with timber frame construction than with horizontal log construction. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. In the 1950s the board sheathing began to be replaced with plywood. loriHii have a 1979 1468 mobile home with a metal roof. You are telling me there are no leaks showing under the home so that cant be it. My question is ,Am I adding to much weight to this home.It was built in 1983(?). Any thoughts? I would like to install a ribbed metal roof over it on perlings. Now you have me wondering if the weight of a fully tiled shower stall is comparable to the original tub filled with water? I wonder if the problem will go away when you turn on the furnace? The completed frame is lifted, moved over, and set down on top of the axles and wheels that have been assembled elsewhere. Asphalt shingle roof systems work great and are long-lasting up to 20 to 30 years. You may have good reasons why it is the best approach for your situation. herberton railway tunnel. If this is to be a metal roof, there is no decking and a large roll of metal is unrolled over the house. he I exterior walls our made up of 2*2 squares, not the 2+4 studs as we were told.Where can we get the plans on how our Mobile Home was really put together? There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. The home otherwise looks good and is on its own land, but not permanent foundation. TiaI have a very old single wide mobile home 1046 (built in the 1950s or 60s I believe.). With the posts or staves getting farther and farther apart horizontal clapboards or weatherboards needed intermediate support between these principal vertical load bearing members and this lead to the introduction of smaller vertical posts spaced more closely together between the larger bigger posts (Photograph 2). In this article, _Two-By Debate Continues_ it says that the payback time for 2x6 walls in Minneapolis (once again a heating climate) would be aprox 78 years.Another publication "A Builder's Guide to Energy Efficient Homes in Georgia, J. Tiller and D. Creech, Governor's Office of Energy Resources, 1990. This is where knowing exactly who is responsible for what will be essential. Note the word frame. A frame has four sides. They can pull the trap a long way before they stop moving. Homes that are not quite ready to ship will back up in the yard. Why cant we build with 2x4? So I had 1/4 inch sheetrock installed over and glued to the panel board, ripped out the kitchen and bathrooms and replaced with standard cabinets and bath fixtures, replaced the carpet with laminate flooring, and replaced all the plumbing, lighting, windows, and doors. Brian1968 Taylor mobile home at the beach. Since Im approaching retirement instead of going in debt, I thought I might be able to to move it like a modular unit put on a foundation with floor joists and rip off/rebuild a normal roof. That is how I found the problem, it was fastened I think jus below the top plate. It may be best for me to install a complete shower kit and be on the safe side. The completed floor is then rolled to a prep area where one person gets under the home and drives lag bolts through the metal frame members (outriggers) and into the floor joists. Photograph 5: Building AmericaAdvanced frame 2x6 structure, studs on 24 inch centers, single top and bottom plates, 1.5 inches foil faced polyisocyanurate insulating sheathing. body walking around the table as I play?Thanks!-TomPaulIm still around, sometimes. A physical inspection needs someone young and skinny who knows where to (carefully) place their hands and feet or you will be coming back to the website to look into ceiling repairs. Homes built prior to 1976 had only one or two inches of insulation wrapped around the walls, floor and ceiling, 2 x 2 or 2 x 3 studs, uninsulated air ducts in the floor and ceiling, no ceiling vapor barrier, and jalousie windows. It makes me wonder what could be done by someone with a case of caulk who knows what he is doing.The thing is, while the wall construction looks fragile, it did meet HUD standards. Their job is to figure out the cheapest ways to meet, but not exceed the HUD standards. That is a simple payback of 52 years. Could we place a support beam across the ceiling, or would that have to much weight for the house?PaulIm sure that with the proper support in the ceiling and possibly some extra support under the home it can be done. I am of the opinion that necessity is the mother of all invention and that has principally driven the evolution of wood frame design. Think about it, we did not change the I-Codes to require building paper for all houses until after 2000 less than a decade ago. A profession repair would have sealed that damage so mice, bugs, cats, or coons dont have easy access to the subfloor area. Trusses are nailed to perimeter 2 x 4s and held in place by wood strips at the centerline and at a couple of other places. Look at the ceiling for evidence of water stains. The Norwegians and Swedes are well known for their vertical board-and-batten siding the origins of which can be directly traced back to their ancient stave churches (Photograph 1). Lots of interesting things happen during transport. In the 1950s, plywood sheathing and particleboard became common, and, today, most standard-construction roofs use either half-inch plywood or particleboard's big brother, oriented-strand board (OSB). Without a sawmill we tended to see more vertical smaller posts spaced more closely together in place of sheathing. Holes are drilled through the bottom of the wall and the floor material and metal sleeves hammered into place. MattPaul, I want to build a 128 addition to my 60s 1260 mobile. We still see this distinction today regionally in the United States and in Australia and New Zealand, no sheathing, just an exterior cladding. The function for the gypsum wallboard is fire resistance, shear resistance for the 2x4 frame and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. Wattle-and-daub has a lime plaster coating. The manufacturer is not responsible for damage in transit or what happens on the dealers lot. There are 4 ways to pass the code: Prescriptive- Do exactly what the code recommends. It can be argued by that one evolutionary path for sheathing was wattle to wood lath to board sheathing to plywood to OSB to insulating foam-board sheets. I have thought about opening the wall and sister-ing each stud with another 2x 3 board so that the wall will be sturdier. The function of the OSB sheathing is support for the siding, shear resistance for the 2x4 frame and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. . The pay back on 2x8 construction in years VS $ would not be worth it. Once you know that you will be able, Manufactured home manufacturers The manufacturer is responsible for the home itself. c. 30, and M.G.L. They really do not have the strength to support more weight.For what you describe I think you will need to think about a roof-over with all the weight of new materials supported by posts set on the ground.Paul, JustinI have a shult single wide made in 2001. In addition to continuous charts, the collection includes thousands of single-contract historical price charts that cover individual contract months from years past. Some saging of sheetrock ceiling -no cracks. Drivers are paid by the mile, so they like to make time. I dont see any way to access the ceiling to place a trap.Its a 1973 Buddy (still in good shape)Do I have to do a cut-out somewhere ?Thanks MikePaulHi Mike,Since I have never, to my knowledge, seen a 1973 Buddy I am just guessing the answer is yes.It might be possible to de-mount a bathroom ceiling fan and use that opening. Performance & security by Cloudflare. DanHey Paul,Ive got an old single wide hillcrest trailer. Faith YoungHi Paul. When you turn lights on, watch for any flicker.Talk to the neighbors and see if they have any outstanding issues with the park management. Mobile homes are built to handle snow loads and other stresses, so there may be enough strength to do what you plan, especially since what you describe spreads out the load.It may not apply in your case, but many mobile home owners dont realize the walls are supported on outriggers which are not designed to hold extra weight either. Your professional opinion would be greatly appreciated.PaulI think that would be a REALLY big mistake!DwightThanks Paul. Any idea why they would have used barnboard then plaster then lath then plaster again and no exterior sheathing? This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. You must be a magazine subscriber to access this feature. At the very least, could I remove the existing, ugly ceiling and replace it with the bead board or some other material?VickyPaulCertainly you can replace the existing ceiling tile with something you like better. Authority: 42 U.S.C. How? We have a very large collection of books that are placed in teak bookcases which are also very heavy. As a landscape builder, he helped establish two gardening companies. Siding. If that is the case with yours removing them is fine. This 2,742-sq.-ft. The problem is that after all that time and effort you would still have an old mobile home or an old trailer. Mobile homes are built as a single engineered unit. It is just the 3/8 wall board, probably 2 x 3 studs and then 1/4 foam board and then my vinyl siding. It may also be used in areas where extra soundproofing may be needed, such as near a highway. Cavity wall insulation was first introduced during the 1970s, becoming compulsory in the 1990s for all new UK buildings. I just called my contractor and cancelled that job.William DiCelloI have a DW 24 x56 built in 1997 (Schult) i need a new roof can i do an overlay? Thanks for the replies Martin and Malcolm, when i moved in the blower door registered 17.68ACH50 (i have a crummy crawlspace) and with a few repairs i am now at 14.85ACH50 so i have a lot to do still, but i do hope that once i airseal the ceiling and dig out and poly the crawl i should have it reduced quite a bit. Can I remove the flat ceiling and vault the ceiling? WillPaul, I am glad I found YOU!. I am not looking to sell it, I have owned the property and mobile home for the last 14 years and lived in it for 5 of those years before I moved away. All of our content is relevant, we publish about 1 per month and you can un-subscribe at anytime. Up and down saws leave straight lines nearly perpendicular to the board. This distance will be a little more than 8 inches if you have 2-by-6-inch framing and a little more than 6 inches if you have 2-by-4-inch framing. Toilets leak, windows get left open in the rain, flower pots leak, and all can cause floor problems. This adds the additional thickness needed for the door frame. are put in place, wall mirrors hung etc. These three really, really big things lead to one of the greatest construction booms in history and the advent of affordable housing. ERI- There is a requirement when using the ERI method that mandates you follow the 2009 prescriptive code, no exceptions, which requires R-20 wall cavity or R-5 continuous and R-13 cavity. Why? Maybe for a while? The place was the American Midwest and the time was the first part of the 19th century. Compared to the weight of book cases, aquariums, water beds, pianos and other things people move into mobile homes your guests total weight is small.The heaviest point load on the floor will come from the high heels some of your guests will be wearing. We use Timberstrand headers. Will it hold a king sized free flow waterbed in the master suite at the end of the home?PaulIm thinking that if waterbeds fell through the floors of mobile homes it would make the evening newsSo you should be fine.I did see a couple of bedrooms where the waterbed leaked. Studs are the vertical boards and are normally 2 x 4 and spaced every 16 in a manufactured home. AlisonMatt, Im wanting to do the same thing. Scope Construct framed walls using advanced framing details like using the minimum amount of wall studs permitted by code to reduce thermal bridging and allow more space for insulation. Which town? You have to know exactly what the problem is and who is responsible for it. cathyI wish to know what mph winds can a singlewide mobile home withstandPaulFrom the weather reports I can see why you might be worried, but unfortunately, there isnt an easy answer. My question is would the ceiling support this much added weight, in your opinion? And not knowing I just let it go until now. Open a door and measure the distance from the outside edge of the outside trim to the inside edge of the inside trim. My question is about the stove plug. Vinyl is put in place and stapled around the edges (no adhesive). Manufacturers and dealers love to blame each other so at least some manufacturers video tape the inside, Read More Mobile Home ManufacturersContinue, I am frequently asked for help finding someone who does good, affordable, repair work. I appreciate your quick responses. Thanks for the opportunity to respond.PaulPlugging the ends would keep wasps from making nests there, but the heat might do that anyhow. Get more support under the addition and make sure it is tight against the house wall but dont expect the wall to support any kind of load. Im not sure of the construction but would guess there is nothing solid at that point to lag to. Great builders add 2.5 inches of closed-cell foam to the headers over windows and doors to help cut down on energy bills. From mud huts and megalithic stones to mega highways and skyscrapers, the evolution of construction reflects mankind's ever . So mobile homes sold in much of Florida will have to meet the highest standards of wind resistance. Manufactured home wallboards range in thickness from 5/16" to ". Its those linings and cavity fills that we are going to look at more closely. We are needing an estimate because of a fire and the demolition costs included getting rid of contents as well.It doesnt have to be exact but ballpark would be fine. Besides having an abiding interest in popular science, Deziel has been active in the building and home design trades since 1975. JonaI live in a 1978 double wide, not sure the make and model, I wanted to hang a swing in my sons room and was wondering if there should be studs or something in the ceiling to hang it from or if it would be a good idea, the swing is a cacoon like swing from IKEA. There is even an insulating sheathing available that provides shear resistance. CasondraThank you so much. Is it advisable to plug the end of the ribs of the 5 rib strips. For any nominal lumber dimension over 6 inches, the dimensional size will be inch smaller. Oh, some of the exterior and interior linings have changed and we did begin to fill the cavities inherent in frame construction, but the fundamental structural system of walls has not changed much over the past 150 years. He has autism and would greatly benefit from having one. +44 (0)7540 787812 frances@constructionandbuildingphotography.com. You'd need to know if it's furring strips or a stud wall (one-by, 2x4's or 2x6's?). Chris Deziel has a bachelor's degree in physics and a master's degree in humanities. They do make good negotiating points that may help you take a few thousand off the price. Look under sinks for evidence of leaks. In terms of cavity insulation we are seeing a trend away from fiberglass batts to spray applied systems. Although it is more expensive than 2-by-4-inch framing, 2-by-6-inch framing is used for a number of reasons. Building designs can pass the Michigan Energy Code with 2x4 construction. The plan to plan variation is not great and anyone who has worked at the factory for more than a few weeks has all the variations memorized. Guest #11 03-29-2002, 01:49 AM Re: 2x6 walls? Daniel OwensAlso my attic is not vented. timber framing seems to have evolved from palisade construction where logs were embedded in the ground vertically side-by-side supporting a roof. In general, homes built before World War II were likely to be built with rough-sawn full-dimension 2x4s. I was wondering if I could just attach light weight bead board to the 22s (I assume thats whats in there! Thank you again for being on the web. Floor Prep. That's down 49% from its $1,515 all-time high on May 28. The ceiling is sized to go from outside edge to outside edge of the house so the edge of the panel rests on the wall. Once a fire retardant was added, cellulose became a popular insulation material option. It certainly wasnt designed for it. It is not in good shape, so I am wanting to gut it completely down to its metal shell and studs and remodel the inside completely. I was taught site built homes can handle three layers of shingles. Cut the 4 x 4 to a length that makes a tight fit between the top of the block and the bottom of the wall. My house measures just over 8 which indicates my house has 2x6 studs with sheetrock & stucco covering the studs themselves. I just found this site, but the Q&As have no date stamps, so I cant tell how old they are.I have a 2004 Fleetwood 14 X 70 mobile home. (Yeslots of money not wisely spent I knowI knowI knowbut had to live there much longer than planned and I couldnt stand the added depression from living in ugly.) but others don't think it's a necessary upgrade. The water heater and furnace are fastened in place. The trailer has many add one already.rexPaulI think a wall section will spread the weight out so it is not a problem. When stretched, the second end is fastened down and then the sides are folded over, caulked and stapled. Home is in excellent condition. In the factory at which I worked for a few, I know that. Just for fun, I have attached a list of the defects a new homeowner might want to check for before accepting delivery of their home. There may or may not be a building paper between the clapboards and the sheathing. For example, sheet vinyl is just laid down and stapled in the factory. Why? No manufacturer would pay for even an extra foot of drain line. The wattle as a support for stucco was replaced with horizontal wooden lath and then board sheathing with building paper and a metal lath. I have no affiliation with any product manufacturer and I am not getting paid for this series. Its been well maintained over the years and Ive done some work. When building your dream house, there are various opinions on 2x6 construction. I would be a little concerned about weight. 10 maybe. Mrs. OLearys cow helped. So, now what? so I wouldnt recommend it.If you do decide to cut an opening into the ceiling of a closet or other hidden space I would suggest attaching a strong cord to the trap. Guess which technology was used? Diagonal bracing kept the frames from falling over. Our home is on a poured concrete basement that still looks good and solid. Mobile home tires are inflated to 2.5 times the usual pressure so blowouts are not uncommon. Todays sheathing and cladding (a.k.a. To tell you the truth I dont know if it was like this when I got it or not.I tried jacking on the edge of the floors , in one area and it came back,but I was afraid to have all that weight on the floor edge. I am sure there are ways to strengthen supports and distribute the load, but I am not qualified to make suggestions.Paul, Edward DeMatteoI am getting close to retire and looking at a 55 + community where they have a 2004 fleetwood 1470 for sale for 24k with a garage and driveway. If the I beams fail, can I fix?PaulMake the most of it, spend the least possible, consider any money spent as spent, not an investment. I dont know any way to be certain where the wires are except look.That said, they dont like to waste money running more wire than necessary. Drop the blocks every six feet or so under the sagging areas. This is my first time living in a Mobile home so please forgive my ignorance in this question: I would like to have a party here but am unsure how many people I can invite because of the extra weight on the floor in the main area (front room, kitchen). I basically gutted the interior.I hung drywall on the ceilings and all walls 1/2 aprox. We have extremely hard water. The metal track attached to the 2x 6 board weighs approximately 25lbs and will span a distance of 5 at the top of the wall next to the ceiling. The weight of the safe is spread over 5 square feet. The result is that all the water, sewer, and electrical lines in a finished home are above the insulation where they will stay warm from the heat in the house. Look through How Your Home Was Built and then go to the mobile home Setup post to see exactly who all the players are. I have never seen any outside of the factory.Have you taken a pencil to the numbers for the work you plan? That equates to $.98 per sq/ft of living space. JackieI have a 1998 16 x 80 Skyline mobile home with the original roof/siding. They also dont waste a lot of time tacking wire to the studs inside the walls. Do you mind sharing your opinion on installing a barn door on an interior wall of a 1981 Marlette? TomPaul,I hope youre still around. PaulHi Paul; I want to add a 30x16 porch to a 12x65 trailer, will the outside wall sustain the roofweight or should Iuse 44 under the 2x6x30 board?PaulDont add ANY weight to the home! So far, so good.Thank you for the additional information about the outer walls being supported by outriggers. It was manufactured in 2002. I would prefer not to post that kind of personal information, i apologize, I've tried what i can think of, its balloon framed, brick basement walls, made with barn board walls, its the first time i have seen plaster-lath-plaster,barnboard (1.5in thick barnboard), 2x4, (no exterior sheathing) exterior wood siding and vinyl siding (added on top about 10 years ago) Jul 21, 2014. Screwed these strips to the ceiling trusses. Lumber prices have had a volatile year. The interior walls are pre-assembled, with paneling on only one side so the inside is accessible to electrical. Decks, skirting (underpinning) etc. When it comes to finished drywall wallboards, you'll find either 3/8" or " options in Clayton . of Housing and Urban Development). This study was conducted to reveal the truth about the energy savings from 2x6 construction. I have not pursued it seriously, i could spend time at the library going over very old records and maybe find some historians but thats a lot of effort which i don't really want to go through. I have to almost gut floor sag issues (roof shingle layers weight bearing is in excess so bowing floors all exterior walls out). What is 2x6 construction? Some spray foams are being promoted as not only providingcavity insulation and air tightness but also structural properties related to shear and impact resistance. When moved in asked for inspection and was told the Mobile home is structurally sound. That's what the term 16 OC, or 'on center' means in construction lingo. Could you add extra supports that are resting on the wall & marriage line? Special door jambs and window casings are needed for 2-by-6-inch construction, though, so it's a good idea to know if you have it in your house. Wow. In short, the lumber prices forecast for 2023 is looking the brightest it has since 2020. Allan, No need to apologize - I wasn't thinking of the privacy implications. If there was too much pressure for production despite absent people or inexperienced workers, there will be a much heavier load for the testing and trimout crews. Its surface rusting in spots and a couple of the seams are leaking. Maybe until the first snow? Anyway, now Im ready to build, have been looking at modular homes, and realized that is basically what Im now living in, except for roof and trailer frame. The financing is easier, buyers appreciate quality work, etc.Good luckTiaThank you for your answer. https://uwaterloo.ca/heritage-resources-centre/sites/ca.heritage-resources-centre/files/uploads/files/heritage_resources_centre_architectural_styles_guide_reduced.pdf. Other tips on age. When this happens, they are no longer able to seal out the water and will often leak. And the first building papers were not good for water control in any event they were sized rosin paper. I think it is just what Im looking for. A layer of rock-wool insulation is blown in on top of the ceiling. Allan, Could you post a picture? Many years ago I called the factory where the mobile home was made, but what they sent me really did not show how this house was made.If you can help us get the plane we would appreciate it.Sincerely: TerryPaulI have never known anyone to have any luck getting plans to even new homes. Finally the 2nd exterior wall is lowered and fastened into place. Pre-cut floor joists are then nailed in place. OSB, or oriented strand board (a composite panel similar to plywood) is up a whopping 152%, from $170 a year ago to $428 currently. The home is hooked up to power, water and gas and everything should get tested. The nominal 2x4 thus became the actual 1 x 3, imperceptibly, a fraction of an inch at a time. It will open a new window and you will have to scroll down to see the article. Many handymen wont work on mobile homes which makes the problem more difficult. They will dry out and start curling around the edges. If things get rushed, materials are badly warped, and the overhangs get trimmed with a router, the edge of the home may look like a snake. ERI (Energy Rating Index)- Have a HERS Rater do a rating on the house and score a 52-55 (depending on climate zone) or better. Lets look at these 2 options: $3.00 sq/ft- 2x4 construction and use 3 of closed cell foam in the cavity. 54.173.119.173 The answer to your question varies from location to location. The frame wall is undergoing another revolution (okay, it just seems that way because not much has changed in 150 years) - a 2x6 frame at 24-inch centers and single top and bottom plates is likely to replace the conventional 2x4 frame. I cant imagine who would have plans from 1976. It would make sense in some of the circumstances she describes.If you have the skills & energy, I think your efforts would be much more rewarded & rewarding if you applied them to a handyman stite built home. ), or even to the plywood, and leave the 22s exposed and paint them. CasondraI have a 1972 Norris single wide mobile home. Where are we going? For many years now new mobile homes have been required to meet HUD standards for wind resistance. Photograph 1: Stave ChurchBorgund, Laerdal, Norway, 12th Century. Unless some handyman did some really creative work (which is possible) the kitchen drain should connect to the main line by the shortest possible path. Finally, it is moved to an area where the holes for electrical outlets, ceiling fans etc. just not sure. 2x4 studs are used for interior walls. george and the dragon filming locations; when did 2x6 construction start in canada. I want to move the stove to the middle of the kitchen and build an island around it. Although it is more expensive than 2-by-4-inch framing, 2-by-6-inch framing is used for a number of reasons. Why would there be 60+ of drain pipe for the kitchen sink, (accept to keep plumbers in Cadillacs?). It may be well worth it, depending on your needs and where you live. The elongated toilet my handyman put in, leaks from the water holding tank. What do you think?PaulHi Lee,I never tried anything that ambitious so this is all speculation on my part.The roof metal goes on last at the factory and is fastened over the top of the exterior wall material. Any suggestions for me EdPaulHi Edward,Ill have to admit that when looking at older homes I could never see any significant difference between brands.Water damage is the biggest hidden problem. The two ends are still solid but also starting to pull away.PaulWork with the idea you want things to touch firmly, but NOT add any weight anywhere.
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